After viewing most of the show The Choice 2008, what similarities do you see in the 2016 campaign as compared to the 2008 campaign? What differences do you see?
Be sure to list two of each. Same or different candidates does not count as an answer. Go next level.
Katelyn Wolfgang: same: 1) the main candidate of the Democratic Party if the win and having won would and are the first of their group to be or possibly be president. In 2008 with Obama being the first African American and 2016 with Clinton possibly being the first woman. 2) a candidate in the Republican Party come from a legacy. John McCain had a military legacy with his father and grandfather and Jeb Bush has a presidential legacy with his brother and father being president. Different: 1) in the 2016 election, the main candidate Trump has no experience as a politician unlike John McCain who ran in 2008. 2) the Republican Party has to separate its debate in two because of the largest number of candidates for the part at over a dozen.
ReplyDeleteSome differences that I noticed where:
ReplyDeleteThe candidates where much more moderate, targeting everyone instead of alienating some groups.
Another difference that I noticed, was the candidates where not very well known before entering the race. Today, many of the candidates have been in the spotlight from the moment the announced their running for president.
The similarities I noticed:
Todays candidates and the candidates of 2008 both held large rallies in-order to gain popularity across the nation.
Another similarity is that each other candidates in 2008 have a select group of people they really wanted to target in their campaign, much like how the candidates for 2016 are doing now.
~Eyad Hasan
A similarity that is quite evident is the presence of political veterans who have deep seated roots in politics, as well as not so much new comers to politics, but people who have risen to power quickly and through charm preaching equality. A difference is the indecision and the fracturing of the GOP as is evident by the 11 potential candidates and the complete animosity among them, as well as a more divided race with the most liberally minded people we've ever seen and the most openly conservative people we've ever seen.
ReplyDeleteSimilarity: A major similarity in the election campaign of 2008 and that of 2016 is that a main candidate in each election was plagued by a scandal that happened when they held government office. Hillary Clinton's reputation is plagued by her 'personal email' scandal and John McCain was plagued by The Senate scandal. Another similarity is that two candidates received fame prior in their life for things not completely government related. In 2008, John McCain was the candidate famous for his bravery shown while a prisoner of war in Vietnam. Donald Trump is the candidate in 2016 who is famous for his overwhelming wealth and successful business, as well as for his TV show The Apprentice.
ReplyDeleteDifference: A main difference between the 2008 election and the 2016 election is that in 2016 there is a bigger presence of candidates who have never held elected office before (for example: Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina). Another difference is that the front runner in 2008, Barack Obama, ran on the platform of unity of all ethnicities, genders, and people in the United States, while the current front runner in 2016, Donald Trump, seems to be taking a different approach by constantly speaking out about immigrants and other minorities.
Similarities: In the 2008 election and the 2016, the parties use mistakes of the others to shadow their political careers, and use that to their advantage (John McCain and Hilary Clinton).
ReplyDeleteLike in 2008, the election seems to really be a war within the parties. John McCain then was trying to get their support after his political scandal while Trump doesn't necessarily receive big backing by the Republicans (and if he does, it's until his polls drop).
Differences: Barack Obama ran on a platform of equality of the races, uniting all of America. However, there is no presidential candidate in the 2016 elections who is claiming such an idea. Rather, Donald Trump is denouncing the ties that Americans hold by ridiculing immigrants.
A second difference is that there is no frontrunner in 2016 who has a military background. In 2008, John McCain was a self-described Maverik and was known for his time in the Vietnam War.
Laura Johnson
Similarities: In the 2008 election, there was a candidate with a familial legacy, much like Bush in 2016. John McCain had a family history of war veterans, which gave him a slight advantage in the 2008 election; similarly Jeb Bush has had a family history of Presidents in his father and brother, which he could use to benefit his campaign. All of the 2008 and 2016 candidates also targeted specific groups of people, not the nation as a whole in their campaigns.
ReplyDeleteDifferences: In the 2008 election, the GOP was more unified than it is in the 2016 race. This is apparent in the 11 potential candidates in 2016, as opposed to only one frontrunner in 2008. Another major difference is that in 2008, Obama ran on the idea of unity and promoted equality. However, one of the frontrunners in the 2016 election, Donald Trump, is looking to separate immigrants from American society
Similarities:
ReplyDeleteA) In both the 2008 and 2016 presidential campaigns, candidates have used social media to their advantage when it comes to connecting with American voters. For example, Barack Obama's 2008 campaign is sometimes referred to as the "Facebook election." In 2016, Donald Trump tweets and instagrams on a regular basis. For example, Trump held a "#asktrump" Q & A on Twitter and in another case, voiced his opinions about Macy's on the social networking site.
B) In both campaigns, at least one candidate has been plagued by a political scandal. In 2008, John McCain was associated with the Keating Five scandal in and in 2016, Hillary Clinton is associated with her undisclosed email scandal.
Differences:
A) Unlike in 2008, the 2016 GOP includes politically inexperienced runners. We have Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon, Carly Fiorina, a businesswoman, and Donald Trump, a businessman. While they are all very successful, they have never held political office before. This raises the question of whether political experience is necessary for one to be president.
B) In 2008, Presidential candidate Barack Obama's presidential campaign elicited a lot of African-American and race sentiment. It was unprecedented that America would have a "black" president so soon. In 2016, we see little appeal to race to advance one's stance in the polls.
Daisy Garner
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-Both campaigns had/ have a big involvement in racial issues. For example, in the 2008 election Obama strived to use the idea of unity for all Americans (regardless of background) which gained him popular support among minorities. In the 2016 election, Trump's comments about Mexicans caused a large outcry from the Mexican-American community.
-To gain support, both campaigns had candidates that held large political rallies and used social media. For example, recently 2016 candidate Hillary Clinton had a rally in New York. Her rally was featured in Snapchat, a social media platform that has over 30,000,000 users. When running, Obama was on of the first candidates to take the power of social media to such a high level. He used Twitter and Facebook to gain support, in addition to holding rallies.
Differences:
-In the 2016 election there is more candidates that do not have a political history history (like Carson, Fiorina, and Trump). In the 2008 election, both of the main candidates had political experience. Obama had been previously a senator and McCain served as the Navy's liaison to the U.S. Senate.
-Another difference is fewer 2016 candidates have experience with the military. McCain, a leading candidate from the 2008 election was a POW and his experience in the military was a leading part of his campaign.
A difference in the candidates of 2008 and 2016 was that Obama, the democratic candidate, had to work his way up from senator of Illinios, taking it year by year until he decided he'd run as president, while Trump, who is neither republican or democratic, came to power almost instantly due to his wealth and name. Another difference in the two elections is that it was a very big event to have a black man running as president, whereas after his two terms end this coming year, it seems as if no one from the democrats or republicans or the African American race are willing to join the movement and run (in my opinion). Instead, there are two women, Clinton and Fiorina, trying to win their party's vote.
ReplyDeleteA similarity of the two elections is that all the candidates had to hold rallies and partake in social media for campaigning, such as Trump and Obama renting out large spaces to give inspiring speeches (or at least Obama's was inspiring). The candidates of 2008 and 2016 also had times when they felt critized and as if they couldn't show their face. For example, Obama felt people were critical about his race and his background, which greatly affected his campaign, whereas Trump has said ridiculous things such as that the president is Muslim or that all Mexicans are terrorists or rapists. However, Trump doesn't seem to care as much about what he says compared to Obama.
Emily Roché
Similarities:
ReplyDeleteBoth elections took advantage of social media to boost their influence and gain popularity. Trump is constantly mentioned on tweets, as where Obama strategically used Facebook to his benefit.
Scandals seem to arise often, such as Hillary Clinton's email scandal and McCain's Senate scandal, which ended up harshly damaging their reputations in the presidential race.
Differences:
For the first time, a specific population had a strong distaste towards a certain candidate, in a radical sense. After Trump's absurd comment on Mexican-Americans, he was bashed over and over again for the statement he made, leaving him without most of their votes.
Similarities: In both campaigns, the opposition party castigates the sitting President and his policies. In 2008, Obama, Clinton, and Edwards all attacked the Bush administration for its failed, costly, and deadly military operations in the Middle East.In 2016, Republicans have, with great opprobrium, vilified the Obama administration, particularly on its foreign policy, education initiatives, use of executive action, and healthcare reforms.
ReplyDeleteIn both campaigns, outsider candidates seem to do remarkably well when appealing to the party’s base during primary elections. In 2004, a little known Senator from Illinois found himself at the focal of the national spotlight following his moving speech at the DNC. Although Obama has far more political experience than outsiders in the Republican primary like Trump, Carson, and Fiorina, more inexperienced and less establishment-esque candidates seem to fare far better in the primaries than their establishment counterparts, as Obama was able to defeat Clinton with her great wealth, and political clout in Washington
Differences: The sheer number of candidates in the 2016 Republican primary is entirely unprecedented. In 2016 there are give or take 15 candidates, many of whom will likely drop out of the race after the winter. In 2008, there were four GOP primary candidates: McCain, Romney, Huckabee, and Ron Paul.
Another significant difference between the 2008 and 2016 elections will likely be the amount of money spent on the elections. Since the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling in the Citizens United V. Federal Election Committee, and subsequent ascendance of unchecked campaign spending, the amount of money raised in Federal, state, and local elections has increased dramatically. Even more fascinatingly, an unprecedented amount of donations are coming from politically involved middle and lower classes in place of the political and financial elite. The Carson, Sanders, and Paul have all employed these grassroots fundraising tactics; in fact, the Carson campaign has made campaign finance history, gathering a millions dollars from individual donors in a matter of days following his comments regarding Islam and the Presidency.
--Adriel Sumathipala
Similarities: Both elections included candidates who defied the previous racial and gender standard for President. This included Barrack Obama in 2008, who became the first African-American president, and Hilary Clinton in 2016 who could become the first female president. Another similarity is in both elections a candidate was afflicted with a political scandal. In 2008, John McCain was involved in the Keating Five scandal, and Hilary Clinton is currently dealing with the scandal involving her personal emails.
ReplyDeleteDifferences: In the 2016 race there seems to be many more candidates who have no political history or have never held office, including Trump, Carson, and Fiorina. Another difference is in 2008, race and unity were a major topic, but in the current election there has been significantly less talk of racial equality.
One similarity is the lack of experience in a proportion of the candidates. Trump, Fiorina, and Carson all have no government experience. In 2008 Barack Obama had very little government experience, at least at the national level. One other similarity between the two elections is the current state of the GOP. In 2008 the Republican party was split into two halves-the ultra conservative-and the moderately so. Just recently speaker Boehner was "forced" out of office by Republicans in congress who were disappointed in him not taking firmer stances on traditional issues.
ReplyDeleteOne difference would be the sheer amount of candidates running for the Republican nomination this time around. Currently there are 15 Republican presidential candidates. One other difference would be the amount of ideological diversity in this election cycle vs that of 2008. In 2008 there was a general lack of spread on the political spectrum especially among Democratic candidates. Whereas now for example Hillary Clinton is way more moderate than say Bernie Sanders.
A glaring similarity between the 2008 and 2016 elections is how the respective parties used the "failings" of the sitting president as a major speaking point. In 2008, the Democrats heavily criticized President Bush for the events the transpired in the middle east due to his military strategy. This is similar to how today, in the 2016 race, Republican candidates from all ideologies are attacking President Obama for his healthcare reform, accused "lack of strategy" in the Middle East, and furthering the reach of big government. Another similarity between the races is the presence of a minority in the Democratic Party: In 2016 there's Hillary Clinton, a woman, and in 2008 there was Barack Obama, an African-American.
ReplyDeleteA feature distinct to the 2016 race is the Republican affinity for the anti-establishment candidates. The closest thing to candidates like Trump, Carson, and Fiorina, all who have had no government expirence at all, was Obama in 2008, due to his tiny amount of experience in government at the time of the race. Compared to the 2008 race, the voice of the Tea Party in the Republican Party seems much stronger, with issues such as marriage equality, abortion rights, and immigration taking a large spotlight in the Republican platform.
A similarity I noticed between the 2008 and 2016 election was that some candidates in both elections had famous family members. Specifically, Jeb Bush and and John McCain. The second similarity I noticed was that during each election, the candidates frequently speak of failures of the current president.
ReplyDeleteThe first difference I saw was how many candidates there are in the republican primary in the 2016 elections. The second difference that stood out to me was that the 2008 election did not have any candidates with nearly as much good and bad publicity surrounding them. However in the 2016 election, Donald Trump has easily sparked a media frenzy.
Justin Ceresa
Differences
ReplyDelete1. There many more candidates in the 2016 election than the 2008 election.
2. Though social media was prevalent in 2008, the 2016 presidential candidate have used social media for their advantage significantly more than the 2008 candidates. By using more and more social media, the 2016 candidates have been able to get the attention of kids, whereas in 2008, not as many kids were interested.
3. A difference is that in the election of 2016 many of the primary candidates do not have much political experiecne. In the 2016 election, there is Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson, and Donald Trump who all don't have political experience, but do have medical and business experience. In the 2008 election, there almost all the the candidates had political experience whether it was a mayor, governor, senator, or congressman.
Simmilarities
1. A similarity is that scandal follows one or more of the candidates in each election. In 2008, the Keating 5 scandal still followed McCain. Recently, personal emails of Hillary Clinton had been released which proved her guilty of putting confidential information on one her personal emails. This makes her look as if she is unreliable and untrustworthy.
2. In both elections, there were multiple candidates who gained influence because of a family member who was in politics. Im not saying thats they only reason they were influential, but it certainly was a factor. In the 2008 election, Hillary clinton and Mitt Romney ran. Almost all know that Clinton was the first lady for President Bill Clinton. Mitt Romney's father was the former Michigan governor. In the 2016 election, Hillary is running again, but Rand Paul and Jeb Bush are running as well. Rand Paul is the son of former presidential candidate and Texas congressman, Ron Paul. Jeb Bush is the brother of George W. Bush and son of George H. W. Bush, who both were former presidents. Having family members help them in the way because the public already knows them. Many people did not have any clue who Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina were until they announced their candidacy.
Similarities:
ReplyDelete1. In regards to the opposite party of the incumbent president at the time, that party uses the president as a scapegoat for societal issues, criticizing the current president. In 2008 it was Bush's involvement in the middle east, in 2016 its the iran nuclear deal.
2.Candidates from both election cycles are or were caught up in scandals at the time. In 2008 it was McCain with Keating, in 2016 it was Clinton with her emails.
Differences:
1. The sheer size of the candidate pool in 2016 trumps(no pun intended) that of the candidate pool in 2008.
2. While Obama may not have been especially tenured in Congress before assuming the presidency, the front runners for the GOP have not held political office at all.
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ReplyDeleteone of the similarities between the 2008 and 2016 election is the legacy of some candidates, in 2008 it was McCain and in 2016 it is Jeb Bush. Another similarity is that scandals hurt candidates campaign, John McCain and the senate scandal and Hilary Clinton with personal emails. Both elections also had a candidates hold rallies in order to gain popularity.
ReplyDeleteDifferences in both elections includes the number of candidates running for the 2016 election, which is much higher than in 2008. Another difference is also that there are more candidates running with no political experience, such as: Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and Carly Fiorina.
The 2016 Presidential campaign shares much in common with that of 2008. For instance, in both years, the Democratic party has had a relatively unknown senator attempting to and even gaining huge grassroots momentum in an unprecedented moment of time, something uncommon for senators. These two senators are, of course, Barack Obama in 2008 and Bernie Sanders for 2016. Another similarity is the fact that at least one candidate from each year was involved in political scandal that severely damaged their reputation. For 2008, it was John McCain and the Keating Five scandal, while for 2016 it was the private email scandal.
ReplyDeleteDespite the similarities that the campaigns of 2008 and 2016 may have, there are many factors that set the 2016 campaign apart. For one, there are three 'outsider candidates' in the GOP with no previous experience running for president. While this is not unheard of, what is unprecedented is the amount of support they are garnering; according to polls, more than their experienced counterparts. A second difference may again be found in the two senators from the Democratic party and the severity of their platforms. Where Bernie Sanders for 2016 seems to run on an almost socialist platform while Obama in 2008 ran on a much more unified, moderate platform.
-- Teddy Chu
A difference between the campaigns is that the candidates in the last race were more moderate and tried to appeal to a greater audience. While this year the candidates are very extreme in their views. Another difference is that there's a woman running on both sides compared to the 2008 election where Clinton was the only woman running on the democratic side. Also, the women on both sides are doing very well.
ReplyDeleteThey are similar in that both campaigns use social media to publicize their campaign and expand their popularity. They are also similar in the topics they discuss and debate over, like planned parenthood and immigration.
'The Choice 2008' spoke of two major political figures, John McCain and Barrack Obama. One similarity shared between the election of 2008 and this election (2016) is the use of social media. When Obama ran for office in 2008, his use of facebook setting up an account to aid in his campaign. This earned the title of the 'facebook election'. Obama's use of facebook also revolutionized campaign strategies as more presidential candidates and other politicians started utilizing social media one of which happened to be Donald Trump. Trump has been using twitter in order to bash other presidential candidates and also to state his respect for them. All in all, social media has proved to help presidential candidates immensely.
ReplyDeleteAnother similarity shared between the 2008 election and this election is how the youth are involved. Obama's use of social media had won almost 70% of Americans under the age of 25. In the election of 2016, the use of twitter/instagram has increased youth interest because they longer have to read a newspaper article or watch hours of CNN. Also, Donald Trumps extensive use of twitter has provided great 'entertainment' for the youth (at least by my books).
One difference between this election and the election of 2008 is that the election of 2008 had less childish behavior. We have seen in recent debates how candidates such as Trump, Bush(Jeb), and others whose names I don't know constantly bicker about topics concerning how successful they are in their personal lives etc. and although its fun to watch, viewers (most of them) want a serious president with a sturdy plan to better America.
Another difference between both elections is the strength of 'minority' candidates and the number of candidates. There have been an immense amount of candidates in the 2016 election compared to that of the 2008 election which shows the growing interest to better America (or take over the world). The minority of the candidates (Carson and Fiorina) also seem to be becoming more and more 'used to' by Americans. When Obama first ran, the whole world was shocked but now we see Ben Carson and don't think "He's black", instead, we look past that and focus on what his policies are.
Gerald Bonsu
Differences 1 difference was that in the 2008 campaign the candidates had somenough kind of political experience while this campaign a lot of the front runners are outsiders like Ben Carson and trump.
ReplyDeleteAnother difference is that this year the amount of money going into campaigns us a lot greater than 2008 trump held a rally in a stadium where in 2008 that never happened.
A similarity is that both upcoming front runners are political unknowns or unknown to many lie Obama was in the beginning and like how trump has gained support throughout the campaign. Another similarity is that in both campaigns is that the widening of the campaign fronts instead of just ralies the candidates are using social media link Obama did in 2008.
ReplyDeleteA big similarity in the 2008 and 2016 campaigns is that there are candidates facing scandals that have caused hiccups in their campaigns. In 2008, John McCain was facing the Keating Five scandal from 1989, and in 2016 Hillary Clinton is facing the email scandal that occured during her tenure as Secretary of State.
ReplyDeleteAnother similarity is the presence and importance of social media. The candidates use social media to appeal to the younger voting crowd and make their views known.
One of the differences between the 2008 and 2016 campaigns is the political experience. Both Obama and McCain had some experience in national politics (even if Obama was a first-term senator), while the frontrunners in the republican party have little or no experience in poitics.
Another big difference is that, during the 2008 campaign, both McCain and Obama were staying towards the moderate middle, while the candidates in 2016 vary wildly in their political views, and where those views place them on the political spectrum.
A similarity between the 2008 and 2016 elections is the use of grass roots campaigning from candidates such as Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders to gain popular support and surge ahead of frontrunner Hilary Clinton. Another similarity is that both campaigns witnessed scandals such as the Keating Five scandal for McCain and the private e-mail scandal with Clinton. A difference is that in this campaign none of the frontrunners of the republican party have had political experience, and another difference is that the Republican party has a much larger number of candidates than in the election of 2008.
ReplyDeleteDifference: 1) In 2008 the nation was on a high of electing our first African American president, Barack Obama. The 2016 election doesnt seem as exciting because we arent gaining any more racial equality in this election.
ReplyDelete2) The 2016 campaign contains a business with absolutely no political back round who rarely speaks about policy. In 2008 Obama and McCain had more than enough political back round and better credibility.
Similarity: 1) Although we arent electing another African American president, there is a possibility of establishing another milestone like we did in 2008. Electing our first female president. There are far more possible women candidates with recognition.
2) in 2008 McCain was battling the Keating Five scandal and in this election, Hilary Clinton is battling her e-mail scandal.
One of the biggest similarities in the race is the presence of experienced politicians and new players in the political spectrum. On top of that, many candidates are running in the republican party, which is not anything new, and many, if they don't receive the republican nomination will probably run as an independent. Also, one of the main focuses in this election is scandal, with Hilary, much like McCain in 2008. However, in this election, the forerunners of the republican party (Trump, Carson) are not career politicians.
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ReplyDelete- Mccain was in the midst of one scandal and hillary is in one now
- Social media plays a big role, especially for donald trump
Differences
- The 2016 election contains alot of outsiders and non politicians
- The republican field is 10 candidates large
Nick Pignetti